[ScottMc]

I dont think he/she (thinkerbell is unisex right?) is tossing the onlie poker is rigged theroy out there. I think that the question is are people online working as a team to take down games and, do you thing people cheat live games?

The answer to both is yes.

It is easy to think that 4 guys can get togther in a $200 SnG and fire up the old IM or YahooIM and talk about hands. If you dont think it is happening please go to the store look on aisle 8 and pick yourself up a big box of A CLUE and eat it quickly. Any time money is involved there will be people trying to find a way to get it with out having to work for it... period. It does not have to be 2 guys from the same town sitting at a table togther online either, they could be anywhere. There are several threads on other forums that talk about this daily.

Live game cheating 100% yes. It does come from the movies where a guy is dealing at the bottom or using special marked cards. It comes in a very easy way most of the time and if you know what you are looking for you will see it. It will be 2-3 players at a table and they will be using signals to indicate hands ( YES THEY DID THIS ON THAT SHOW TILT ). This will tell the others at the table what they have and i 3 ppl at the table know 6 of the cards preflop and the 3 flop cards it is real easy to know when to push and when to fold.

Signals can be any form as well. Look for people staking chips on their cards certain ways. Look for sounds and facial experessions between players but the most important is the easiest to spot.

3 guys that play togther are talking during the whole game. cards are dealt and they are chit chatting between each other and one says"

"Wow I really like this hand, it is my favorite!" This could be him telling his buddy that he has a certain hand.

The next guy says something like:

"I almost want to play this because it is suited." This could easily tell someone that he has a mediocre hand maybe made up of unsuited big cards.

The best part about this these guys are stupid. If you pick up enough info on them in a live game you become the unknown guy that can pick them apart.

Look for little things. It is really important that your pay attenion to everything going on in the game at all times. Focus on the tells the other guys give away it makes playing them seem like they have cards that are facing up.

playing in a casino does not even begin the assure that you are not being cheated.