not sure about those two.. i watched joe hachem many times on TV - and i'm not agreeing that he is a fluke..
but i'm 100% sure that Chris MoneyMaker is a fluke.. he just got lucky.. (2.5$ mill lucky).. i watched an interview during EPT tour with him.. he had 40$ on his bankroll when he entered that satellite for WSOP - he admit that he has been very lucky to pass throught main event, and rest is history .. i think that WSOP was his first live played game! you must have luck to win any tournament online (the question is what would happen if some idiot moved and crashed his pocket aces with 22 in that satelitte.. - i think his bankroll would be 0$ and he would be still playing 0.02/0.04 nl games)
but i would be really pleased if whole world calls me a fluke with my 2.5 mill on my bankroll
he is an inspiration for all of us online flukes to try to improve and to hope that we would have a piece of that huge luck on our side!