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Old 07-21-07, 03:41 PM
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Thumbs down rigged 1000%

So here's a story...

Me and some friends (all good live poker players) decided to try online poker, so what to choose - where the most ppl play - pokerstars.

We created account and deposited 100$. We started playing MTT for 4$ (180 ppl) and after 2 days we had 350$ in the acc. So fun it was. After that the same story happend to us. We hold the better hand pre-flop all in (ex. JJ vs 78) we die. And this many many times.

We dropped at 20$, then some cash games with funny bad beats and 0. We said damn, we played wrong too many all-ins, system doesn't like us.

We deposited again 100$ and we started playing 5$ MTT (45 ppl) and cash games. For 2 days we were 250$, the strange thing was that we noticed many odds that happend more often then they should:
4 of kinds, backdoor straights, flop fullhouses and flushes

After the 3rd day we begin to drop again - lost 75$ on 0.05/0.10 only with strong hands only on river or runner-runner.

Then we tried to figure what was going on? Why the system abuses? It's so obvious - the more you play, the more rake they gain.

One other thing - have you noticed that after one has received a "bad beat" on a tourney or S&G and if the next hand he goes all-in it's default win for him no matter the cards of his opponents.

We have noticed that the guy with the more money is favored a lot by the system, when calling all-ins with crap hands vs strong hands from players with short stack. So we tried something...

I registered for a tourney 1$ with near 2500 ppl and started playing damn loose looosee aggressive. Blinds 30 I reraise x8 times with any hand, ANY HAND. I began to receive many flop straights and had killed AA, QQ with them, so after 30min I had eliminated 7 ppl an was 3rd in the toruney. I keep my play until the hour and I won every 3rd hand beleive me or not every 3rd hand was mine with 2 pair at least. After the break I was chip leader, after the second break too. Then I was near 50k chips when I played vs a guy with 20k. On the flop we raised-reraised and when he went all-in I called I was 88% favourite, on the turn 94% and the river saved him... hmm this was so strange, I was so sure I would win, strange, may be I would have stacked too much (2.5 above the 2nd in tourney). Then the next hand I had to test the theory about the bad beat - all-in next hand. I went all in with 57, 2 ppl called (1 with AQ and other AA). I get the BACKDOOR TRIPS - turn 7 river 7 WOW!

Other things that happen too much is the board cards - they are very very often all above 7 or under 7, I mean flop AQ9 or 453 is more often to come than QT3 or J46. Other thing is that so often happens the flop to be same color. This has to be 19:1 on PS it's 10~14:1.

Other thing - go play HEADS UP - damn funny thing. So often when I had advantage (more stack 4:1) I knew when I hold AQ or AK my opponent has avarage pair and because I have more money I always win (47/53) after preflop all-in.

All these stories happend strange to us and we began to seek some info on the net with words like "pokerstars abuse" or cheats or whatever then we found the word "rigged" (we didn't know it) and so we found this thread and after reading your comments I know, we aren't the only one who've seen this whole fucking abuse at pokerstars.

Just when you play there - look for the thing I wrote... You'll see it's not a luck.

Sry for my bad english, I hope you'll get what I try to explain.

To generalize my post: Pokerstars random number generator isn't RANDOM.
I bet my house on this, I'm a winning gambler, have this on mind.
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