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Old 12-10-07, 10:22 AM
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Last week at work I read a lot of forums about the why’s and why nots concerning rigged poker sites and I tell you the one sticks out to me as the big factor is money. I’m a winning player B & M but for the life of me can’t hit my numbers on Poker Stars. So I figured hey I’M GOINGTO SEE IF THERE’S ANY CREDENCE TO THIS FRIGGIN QUESTION……COULD A SITE RIG AND GET AWAY WITH IT? AND IF THEY COULD, WOULD THEY?

I went to one of my friends, a senior programmer and game software designer at my job and said this to her. I’ll buy you lunch you can figure something meets these criteria. (she doesn’t even play poker) unbiased huh? You bet. I said read this forum… the complaints aswell as the arguments standing up for online poker and tell me what you come up with. This was Thursday last week…..I owe her lunch tomorrow.

Her project: If I had to design a poker program that could give a win to a specific player or at least a huge edge regardless of the # of players and to players at multiple tables and still make it pass a randomization deal test……..how would I do it.

SHE SAYS TO ME: Laymans terms. I’d write code sits people in specific seats…..just like when the program knows your out of chips and boots ya to the rail or how when it knows your registered for a tournament and seats you , my program knows where to put specific screennames……because at the beginning of the tourney---- here’s the important part –even though the sequence of cards is random in theory the computer already knows where the cards are going and what they are. And as the tournament goes on who ever I want to sit in the golden seats or not have to deal with it. Then she said give me a couple weeks I’ll figure out a way to rig those ring games aswell as for the SNG? When you are seated that tourney will go to 3 predestined winners edgewise unless they are total morons.
This might not be THE way they bias the games but it is 1 way and with millions at stake and a felon for an owner in Costa Rica…….
I’m sticking with B & M.
More to come..

As much as I think PS is rigged, I really disagree with her suppositions.

If Pokers Stars really does use a RNG, and they really do have it tested and certified, then the "rigging" couldn't (or most likely wouldn't) occur within it.

However, do they say anything about what happens AFTER the RNG does it's thing? I don't think so.

So, say you're dealt a certain two cards. The flop is about to come... there is no reason that an additional layer of coding couldn't be added after the rng that analyzes the card choice of the RNG and then rejects it and waits for it to kick out another one, then rejects it again. Keeping this pattern up until it gets served a card that it's willing to play on the board would be all they have to do.

That process could be done in the blink of an eye. It could be done only for the flop, only for the turn or river, or for all three. Hell, it could even be done for hole cards preflop.

If that were done, the RNG would still remain "pure" and be able to be "certified", but the programming done around it would still be dishonest.



Once again, the ONLY reason that I think PS is rigged is very simple. It just outright defies the odds of poker. By a LOT. Two outers should hit, what, 10 percent of the time? Not 75% of the time.
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