RiggedStars, I agree whole-heartedly with just about everything you mentioned in your posts.
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Originally Posted by RiggedStars.com  Have you noticed that once you start winning a SWTICH GOES OFF AND you either get the shittest hands, or get the nuts BROKEN with some Miracle draw that a DONkey always hits. CRAZy shit, I've seen Quads over Quads, STraight flush over Ace high flush on an unpaired board, STRAight flush over FH...all while playing no more than a few hundred hands of Holdem. PSTARS is so RIGGED its not even FUNNy. |
I have also noticed this. Once you start losing again, it's either because your hole cards are completely unplayable (and if you do play, you miss every single time), or you have the nuts busted every single time. There is no variation.
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Originally Posted by RiggedStars.com Its simple no one wins playing at PSTARS. Sure they may be up a bit now but it's just a matter of time before PSTARS takes it all back. In fact out of everyone i talked to while playing, no one has said that they are winning at PSTARS. You know why? CAUSE ITS RIGGED against good play to give DONKEYS an edge and generate HIGHER RAKES. IT's fucking sick. |
I agree, but I don't think they are really trying to generate higher rakes (they could be, but I think it is just a side-effect of their card distribution).
Take a look at the calculations here for a 180-person $20+$2 SnG on
PokerStars. I've listed at the top the total of all entry fees,
PokerStars' share of the entry fees, and the percentage of prize pool earnings for each winner -- this is the same information found in the tournament lobby. However, down below that, you'll find some calculations related to
PokerStars' usage of bots for players, including the total amount of human-paid entry fees, the amount
PokerStars would have to compensate (ignoring the $360 cut they would get in a straight tournament, since their earnings would then come from the bots placing in the money), and the amount of bots per table. It starts getting really interesting down where there are only 20 bots in the tournament (1 per table).
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20-table NLHE $20 + $2 tournament
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STRAIGHT TOURNAMENT
$22 x 180 = $3960 (theoretical 180 humans registered)
$360 is PS cut
$3600 prize pool
1 - 30%
2 - 20%
3 - 11.90%
4 - 8%
5 - 6.50%
6 - 5.00%
7 - 3.50%
8 - 2.60%
9 - 1.70%
10-18 - 1.20%
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RIGGED TOURNAMENTS
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90 HUMANS / 90 BOTS
$22 x 90 = $1980
PS must pony up $1620
90 bots in tourney (4.5 per table)
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120 HUMANS / 60 BOTS
$22 x 120 = $2640
PS must pony up $960
60 bots in tourney (3 per table)
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150 HUMANS / 30 BOTS
$22 x 150 = $3300
PS must pony up $300
30 bots in tourney (1.5 per table)
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160 HUMANS / 20 BOTS
$22 x 160 = $3520
PS must pony up $80
20 bots in tourney (1 per table)
As you'll notice at 1 bot per table,
PokerStars would only have to invest $80 to complete the $3600 prize pool. This is interesting because they would only really need 1 bot at each table and $80 is a drop in a very, very large bucket to them.
Now for the next part of the equation. Take a look at these possible payouts I've calculated based on the tournament placings of the
PokerStars bots. Remember: a straight tournament of this sort would only net
PokerStars $360.
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With a rigged $22 tournament, PS puts $ on the line, but is guaranteed
that $ back because their bots cannot lose (assuming they can see all the
cards dealt and to come on the board).
They stand to net themselves (with 20 bots in the tourney):
1 through 9, $3211.20 - $80 = $3131.20 (a $2771.20 increase)
1 through 5, $2750.40 - $80 = $2670.40 (a $2310.40 increase)
1 through 3, $2228.40 - $80 = $2148.40 (a $1788.40 increase)
2 through 9, $2131.20 - $80 = $2051.20 (a $1691.20 increase)
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They stand to net themselves (with 30 bots in the tourney):
1 through 9, $3211.20 - $300 = $2911.20 (a $2551.20 increase)
1 through 5, $2750.40 - $300 = $2450.40 (a $2090.40 increase)
1 through 3, $2228.40 - $300 = $1928.40 (a $1568.40 increase)
2 through 9, $2131.20 - $300 = $1831.20 (a $1471.20 increase)
That's quite a bit of money! For just
ONE tournament out of tens of thousands, if not more, that go on
every single day!!
That said, please don't misunderstand me -- I'm not saying that this is proof of
PokerStars being rigged. However, I do think it is rigged and rigged in a very smart fashion. With this sort of money to be made and with all of the strange things that go on in
PokerStars games, I can't possibly help being suspicious of their games being rigged and neither should you.
Also, I have a good explanation for the amount of players on
PokerStars. As I was calculating all of this, there were 110,000 players online. If
PokerStars used bots, that would be a good explanation for why there are so many players and why you never see the same bots winning the same tournaments (because there are so many different bots). This would be a great scheme because proving any single player to be a bot would be impossible due to privacy issues.