Bad beat is a term overused quite often
in general, a bad beat should be, like the posts above mentions, when you are a favourite of 90% or more and u happen to lose, that sums down to about 2~3 outs with the turn/river to come. or requiring runner runnners etc.
another thing i think that should be taken into account is that bad beat is a word that should only be used when you actually outplayed someone and was a huge favourite but lost.
eg. preflop hands getting cracked shouldn't count as bad beat. Aces getting cracked by whatever hand hitting flush, i don't consider bad beat (ok, maybe a little bit, but that's just an ugly way to lose).
anyways, i've seen one of the recent 2005 WSOP main event episodes, some guy calls a guy's all in, JT v 99
in the end, 99 is a slight favourite, and JT should lose just a little more than half the time.
it doesn't matter who wins how, it was all in preflop and at that time, it's almost 50-50.
flop came AKQ, JT getting the nut straight, turn came 9, river came Q, giving the other guy 9's full.
bad beat? not really, phil hellmuths puts it " an ugly way to lose, but not a bad beat, he was a slight underdog preflop so it doesn't matter HOW he lost"
now this differs quite alot if u actually "PLAY" the hand and ended up all in.
if ur holding the nuts, but disguise ur strength and make the other person move all in who thinks they have the best hand. then a bad beat could occur.
u have to best hand, with over 95% to win, the other person thought he had the best hand so he moved all in, but turns out he was beat and now has only 2 outs with the river card to come, and it hits, then it's a bad beat.
because u played your hand the best possible (best one could hope to play with the strongest hand on the board), if you lose, by that 2-3 outer, then it's a bad beat.
it's hard to explain what i'm saying. but bad beat involves some sort of play.
if u played recklessly but turned out u had the best hand and lost, it shouldn't count.
only when u played the hand the best way possible and the other guy had only few outs and lose is ita bad beat..  |