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Old 04-22-06, 01:36 PM
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Let me be like all the idiots I see online. Call any bet preflop then when nothing comes off to help you go all in and think your good. Then when you lose complaing that you had the guy dominated preflop, because preflop is all poker.
that has nothing to do with my post. a Stop n Go is when you have no FE pre flop i had some here, but very little considering it was a freeroll and the guy would of been getting some nice overlay on what hed think to be a flip. If you have a hand that has someone dominated preflop(or their range) then your going to PUSH PRE FLOP DUHHHHHH. Its when you have 77 and they're range is 88+A10+, and if you get a good flop you can get them to laydown 88-QQ sometimes even KK while still possibly losing to A10-AK, but if you pushed pre flop same results. I COULD HIT MY SET WITH 77 BUT I'M STILL GOING TO GET IT IN EVEN IF I DON'T. Its not thinking i'm good its a move that creates FE when its non existent pre flop with a hand that your going to GO ALL IN with regradless. If i had 77 and he had 66 and hit a set of 6s then thats poker, but its getting all in preflop SO THE OUTCOME ISN'T CHANGED!

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Old 08-07-06, 08:27 PM
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in that situation with 7 players to go, i would call his 5BB raise or fold .. you had 24k stack he had 28k.. i would never move against big stack with any drawing hand ..

if i don't hit anything, i would fold to any bet, and losing 5k, leaving me 19k to act with blinds 500/1000 and my bb was passed .. i think that is really good position, and i still have too much time to play poker and wait for my hands to come - and somebody will get out there in that time, so that's more money for me!

i think this is the right answer
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Old 08-09-06, 01:59 AM
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definately right answer... think about it..

You have 1% chance of catching the flush on the flop..
10% chance of catching 2 cards on the flop in your suit...4 suited cards..
like 5% chance of catching straight from flop.. or straight draw
and 30% chance of catching one of your cards on the flop...
3% chance of catching 2 pair on flop
1% chance of catching trips on flop--- add it up

11+5+30+4

50% chance of getting a really nice flop

I would call the bet.. hope i get a piece of the flop
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Old 08-09-06, 03:32 PM
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if you are playing to win this tourney and not just take second or third there is only one move regardless of how your opponent is playing there is a chance he has AK or ace with worst kicker, which is great. There is a chance he has a smaller pair which puts u in a coin flip which you are going to have to get into a some point. And a tiny chance he has AA or KK, but even with KK you arent in horrible shape, the only thing u hope he doesnt have is two of the remaining three aces in the deck highly unlikely but it does happen. Your play is to reraise here, as others stated it isnt mentioned the stacks, but reraise or push here i doubt that he will call the second chip position player cause he knows you wouldnt reraise him without a really strong hand, if he does call you are likely at least fifty fifty to win the hand, and if you do yeah you took a risk but u move into position to win the tourney/ if u lose yeah your out but who knows how the cards will come later you have got to take your shots when you have ammunition.
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There is a chance he has a smaller pair which puts u in a coin flip which you are going to have to get into a some point.
I had a situation much like this, where I played aggressively with in a league tourney the other night. The other player stayed aggressive with me, and we went all in. He had 36o and caught a 6 on the river to beat my high, unfortunately. Just goes to show that the odds sometimes work against you, even if you do play aggressively with suited AK.
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I had a situation much like this, where I played aggressively with in a league tourney the other night. The other player stayed aggressive with me, and we went all in. He had 36o and caught a 6 on the river to beat my high, unfortunately. Just goes to show that the odds sometimes work against you, even if you do play aggressively with suited AK.

Got to love the 3-6 off. Who would have played that hand aggressively?
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I'm going to answer this before I read the others' replies. This is an all-in or fold, IMO. The pot is 6500 (no antes?), so it's 4000 for you to call a 6500 pot, so 13-8 or about 1.6-1. If you push, the pot is 30500, and he has to call 19000 for that, or 1.6-1.

First consideration is the likelihood he's just stealing. He's on the button and it's folded to him. His raise (5x BB) is too big for a value raise. I put the chances that he's stealing very high, maybe 40%?!?

Second consideration is his starting hand range. From Poker Stove, if his range is any two broadway cards or any pair, you are a 3-2 favorite. If his range is 66+, AJo+, ATs+, you are 54-46 favorite. If he's WAY tight and would play only TT+, AKo, AQs, or AKs, you are only a 54-46 dog. Considering the strong possibility that he is on a steal and the too-big bet, I like your chances. Push all-in.

(That said, I'm guessing he had a pair and you didn't improve, or he had AT and spiked a ten on the turn.)
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AKs is a draw - a nothing before the flop.. when i'm good stacked i don't like to push against big stack with AK.. there are players on pressure, against them it is easy call! in this situation, calling a raise is best play for me, there are players to go, and i don't wanna to get out with only pieces of prize pool, when i have stack to go really FAR.. if he didn't hit his ace or king on flop, with 19k and that blinds he still had good chances to win that tourney!
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i would say call but knowing me and how most people play that hand is an all in hand. People dont tend to think when they see AK they get excited and push especially people in a freeroll. I mean for that situation obviously calling is ur best bet but u didnt know, if the flop came out to have an A or K you woul dhave thought u made the best decision.
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Like all poker hands, strategy depends on the situation, and sometimes all you can do is give it up to luck.

I was playing in a 1,000 person freeroll today. Less than 100 people were left, I had only $1400 in chips, and the blinds were at $400/$800. The table was playing very tight. When showed up in my hand, I called, thinking that most people would fold with the blinds that high. Three called and the BB checked, which I was happy to see. The flop came , and I pushed all in. Two people folded, one called, and the BB folded. The caller showed , and I was ahead in the footrace.

Then the turn card came: . He hit his two pair, and moved ahead of me in the footrace. The final card was :Ts:. I wound up only missing the for the royal flush, and busted out of the tournament in 84th place.

Ah well ... top 8% isn't too bad.
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