[King Michel]

Originally Posted by pokerlan

Pokerstars can change the outcome of any game. They can factor a winning and lossing % to each name that signs on. If you have complained in the past you will very rarely win. If you do win a hand by chance, you will probably wind up splitting the pot. I have sat at 38 different 10/20 NL tables the other night and each table I sat down I alway got a 3 or 4 drop on my closed card. The odds are highly impossible to drop 27 3's and 24 duces and all other under cards were under 6. for a total of 38 hands.
So last night I tried again with 100k starting and my losing % after 50 games was 96% FIXED, Rigged or whatever you want to call it.Please do not play with real monies you will definetly lose in the end. programs can be tamper with.

Ihave experienced the same thing i complained about it a lot and after my 21 beat in a row with pocket aces i i called them a rigged site. my account has been closed for ever now which i dont mind but is there anything we can do to shut that rigged manipulated site down. there must be something we can do

[SHORTSTACKED]

Originally Posted by Cudaman

My biggest thing that drives me crazy is what i call the SNG setup hands, which usally happen if the SNG has been going for a while. Seems if your the short stack or very close in chips to another player,I will be in the BB and check into the hand only to hit 2 pair on the flop, then bet it out and get reraised all-in only to see the other guy has 2 higher pair or a str8. Shit like this happens all the time! The hand is designed for 1 reason! to get both players chips into the middle, that way 1 player is gone. Pokerstars can't make any more money from you unless they get you out of 1 tourny to have you enter another. Also it seem these BB hands are always junk hands that you think could not possibly hit the other player, but it does. My last 3 shootout tournys ended this way.
1st tourny: 45s in SB (call) flop comes 547, being the short stack I push only to get called by 47 and the turn hits another 7
2nd tourny: K9 in BB (check) flop comes Q29 I bet get called turn K again I push only to see he has 10 J
3rd tourny: K7 in BB (check) flop comes K78 I go all-in get called by SUPRISE! K8
There are many more hands like this, and it happens so often, i usally tell myself out loud hear comes the 9 or whatever card the other guy needs to make that miraculas str8 on the river.
I sent emails to Pokerstars, and I get the same ole "you see more hands online". I also said that the calls I see people make a blind monkey wouldn't make. there response was if the bad palyers always folded the tourny would go on forever. That tells me that it seems like they encourage bad play. Well I have $4 left when it's gone, so am I!!

I agree and have been accumulating information to prove your above theory.

When you end up short for any reason, beware of your BB that's all I can say. I don't care if you get AQ, AK, AA, pp, anything, you better know that if you get in the hand you are going down to a deep stack. If you get any good starting hands and the deepstack is on their BB, you can predict that they will call your all in or raise and will have the nuts hit the board in their favor.

This cannot be coincidence. This cannot be random. This cannot be based on luck. There is definately something fishy going on at the ps site.

I have sat through a whole game without being able to play a hand because the cards were so bad or the flops continually missed causing me to short stack and then going out with a premium hand to the deep stacks rags. I have gone a whole game with no cards above a 10, no pp, nothing until the final hand where I get a pp or AK and go out to the deep stack.

I know there is something in their software that can be adjusted and can be fixed to favor. Anything is possible when it comes to software.

Whoever tested ps software is either wrong or the alternative.

PS may be a big company now, but they are not above the law whether it be moral or otherwise.

[vukojebina]

I've been calculating some stats with the help of pokertracker.

after 30.000 hands... when I hit a set on the flop and there is possible flush (two suited cards on board) and I go all-in at the flop and I am called. My winning percentage is around 20%.

[SU1C1D3_K1NG]

i felt that way to till i went to full tilt and ub now im content with pokerstars i just try not to play the lower limits were people tend to make more rediculos calls all in and hit

[goodplayer]

I had a pair, a flush draw, a straight draw and a royal flush draw on the flop. Then an the turn I had a full house draw with a four of a kind draw. Then on the river was a big fat blank. I only ended making 3 of a kind and lost becuse my opponent had the nut straight on the flop fucking bullshit. Pokerstars is a fucking joke!!! they make players put more money in the pot on those crazy draws so they can get the maximum rake for themselves I hate those assholes!!!!!!!!!

[vukojebina]

I just cashed out and I am depositing about alf to full tilt and half to party poker.

The reason I did that was besides the bad beats were 2. The first one was when I ordered something from their FPP store about 6 months ago... and they still didn't manage to send it to me. The other one was, when I got my chat banned. On guy called me an idiot on the table and I responded by calling him a moron. I got the ban and he was happily chatting after that. So I started reporting people who pulled similar stunts and NOT one of them got the ban. One guy who I was chatting with (he is a German) said he got banned for 3 weeks when one other player called him a nazi just because he is a German, he responded back calling the other guy and idiot and got his chat banned. The other guy of course did nothing wrong.

This things just showed me how unprofessional they are. This is not the company that can be trusted. They do not treat all players equally - and have no intention to. I sent them a few mails regarding these things. And they just kept delaying and dodging responsibility.

They want donks to win. They want chasers to win. And that is the reason they have so many players there. Good ones are always fighting against "bad streaks" there and hoping it will go away... and the bad ones are so happy to stay when they hit their impossible draws.

How many of you did actually hit a hot streak there? On bad weeks I win 20% of the sets I hit on the turn against draws. On a good week I win about normal 60-70% against draws. I never win 90%-95% of them to compensate for the bad streak.

[Cloudx9]

Wow I just had a joke of an afternoon on Jokerstars. after turning $100 into $800 in the past two weeks. I decided to withdraw the $100 I initially put in. so it guarantees I wont lose it. of course after that all hell broke lose. I lost 10, yes 10 straight ALL IN situations in which I was ahead after the turn(not the flop, but the turn so I only had to dodge one card). 3 different occasions I went all in with a pair of K's after the flop knowing I had the best hand at that time and all 3 times some A$$ calls me with just A high and all 3 times they catch their A on the river. another time during a heads up match the guy holds pocket 7's and I held A 10. flop came 5 5 10, I go all in and he calls me being short stacked, he catches a 3rd 7 on the river. then the very next hand I go all in preflop with AK, he calls with AQ and flops a straight. go figures. Jokerstars doesnt even try to hide it.

[vukojebina]

If we look at the bright side... pokerstars are producing a mass of ultra bad players.

If it's so hard to fold 93 offsuit in the blinds to raiser under the gun, that just raised 25xBB... then don't fold - RAISE! You can always deposit again.

[vukojebina]

I had one funny heads-up match. Played it against a very passive guy, who was minibetting even with the nuts.

Of course i lost it... but it was a very interesting, almost for TV:

In the game that lasted around 30 hands.. he got:

two pair: 6 times
Stright: 2 times
flush: 3 times
three of a kind: 2 times
full house: once
quads: once

There was only straight flush missing. The losing hand was 22KK2 with me holding a K and him 2. This was the only hand he went all-in.

It is amazing. I play against aggressive guy, I know this is going to end fast with me probably winning. Against passive.. I know even if i get him to 10xBB... he is getting that 30 hand card rush and busting me.

[vukojebina]

Oh just played another one, about 5 hands.

Lost with A high flush to straight flush.

They forgot to add it previous game.. here it is.