[fasteddy1970]

Anyone have as much trouble with this particular pair as I do? In a multi when my stack was half the average, I called an all in bet of 1400 with it. He just came out betting all in and his bet seemed so stupid, that I figured him for a small pair. Was I crazy, stupid, or just not tight enough.

I have problems with this hand in general as with pocket 99. But I'd say I've lost more money and made more stupid calls or raises with pocket 10 than any other hand.

[Acorn89]

Well when you are pretty short stacked you really need to find some cards to go allin with and 10s are a pretty decent hand if you know that the worst possible hand you can go agaist is a coin flip. But when you are getting short stacked it is always better to go allin then to call off all in because if you go allin you always have the chance to pick up the blinds.

If you find yourself with this hand in a ring game:

In early postion you usallly throw it away, and sometimes raise with it

In middle or late postion you want to raise with this hand to eliminate people with like Ax some they cant hit a cheap A. And when you do bet with this hand you want to be careful if a J Q K or A comes on the flop. And then go from there. (this is more of a conservitive approach to the hand)

[fasteddy1970]

Acorn: I agree and that' how I play it post flop but it's the preflp that gets me cause so many guys go all in with less than that hand that I have a problem throwing it away especially moderately short stacked.

Here's another hand if you're interested. Im in a two table s&g 7 players left blinds are 200. From the small blind I raise 400 with k-j suited. The big blind calls. flop comes 5 k 7 I bet my K strong and he raises strong. My option was to fold, call or reraise. I re-raised. He had two pair 5-7 and killed me. I guess I just didn't think he would be stupid enough to call a $400 raise preflp with 5-7 us

What would you have done in my position. Just calling the raise would have given me more room to manuever and I guess fold after the turn card but I didn't do that.

[iceberg]

Pocket 10's - I will try and see the flop cheap and hope for a set OR all under card rags, then make a bet. The trouble is that most of the time you will see at least one overcard, which you then have to play cautiously.

KJ and getting top pair - You have a decent kicker, but if you see a strong re-raise, it's time to let them go. In your case the other guy might have AK, KQ, 55, 77. I agree that playing 5-7 is BS, but I've seen some players gamble and get a big payoff. Part of mixing it up.

Iceberg.

[AGreen]

Originally Posted by fasteddy1970

Here's another hand if you're interested. Im in a two table s&g 7 players left blinds are 200. From the small blind I raise 400 with k-j suited. The big blind calls. flop comes 5 k 7 I bet my K strong and he raises strong. My option was to fold, call or reraise. I re-raised. He had two pair 5-7 and killed me. I guess I just didn't think he would be stupid enough to call a $400 raise preflp with 5-7 us

Blinds are 200 and he's only got to put 2 more BBs into what could develop into a defining pot in the tournament. If you've go KJs in the SB you should fire heavy, heavier than making him pay 2 BB's for a flop. Plus 57s is a tricky hand that I'd call with for 2 more BB's, assuming my opponent has overs.

- What were your stacks looking like at this point? If he was chip leader or decent stacked it's different. What was the buyin? Low buyins are going to be loaded with donks. What's your read on him? What do you think the table perceives of you? Answer these and put your response in Hand Analysis so that we can thoroughly dissect it.

[Takethepot25]

I can see why you have problems with pocket 10's but personally they are one of my favorite hands. When playing them you have to of course look at your position, chip stack and all that but basically here is what I suggest if your having bad problems with them. If anyone in front of you raises just make the call ( nothing else ). If it comes around to you and nothing has happened make a small raise about 4x the Big Blind. If anyone goes allin preflop get out. At best your going up against over cards which would mean a coinflip and there is also the possibility of someone having a higher pocket pair in which your really screwed. When someone goes all in preflop your usually looking at going up against some premium cards. See what comes on the flop. If the flop is all lower cards. Bet heavy and if someone else bets raise them big and try to keep them from catching. If higher cards come out get out if anyone bets. If your a more experienced player make your read and do whatever you feel is right but if your having problems with 10's just get out and save your chips for a better spot. If you hit a set and there are no obvious draws on the board you can slowplay and try to draw a bet. If there are any kinds of flush draws try to get your opponents out early and make them pay if they want to chase their draws. Basically you want to take down the pot quick and just not lose anything big with this hand.

[ad1129]

Early on with low blinds i like to play pocket tens and pocket nines for their set value. When someone flops TPTK on a 8 high board you'll be getting action and depending upon the player you might be doubling up. Going all in with 1010 with half the average stack is a perfectly fine play especially vs someone who you deem as being very aggressive. When i need to make a move i have no problem making it with 1010 just pray for the best .

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[touche]

First and early position: Make or call a standard raise
Middle and late position: Make or call a standard raise. You can re-raise against aggressive players.


PS
I am a big fan of TJ

[greendrag00n]

i would play 10s the same way i play 6's because there not strong enough to push preflop and there not weak enough to get rid of them I say limp take a peak at the flop if its not good toss em.

[iceberg]

GD, I agree with your TT strategy.
If in early position and no overs, then make a bet.
If in early position with overs, check.
If in late position and no overs and facing a bet, then call or raise.
If in late position and overs and facing a bet, then fold.

Watch out for coordinated flops and/or big bets. That is the time to fold.