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Old 03-12-06, 02:55 PM
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I hate this situation suppose you have a pretty good hand like KQ but you are the first to act and u raise to 3x the bb and 1 guy calls you and the blinds fold. The flop is like 2 7 Q rainbow then you bet like 3/4 the pot and the guy raises you all-in or double your bet. What do you do here i hate this situation because
it seems like it can go either way either they have you toally dominated with a hand like AA-KK AQ or the just flopped something extremlly lame like 2 pair or you have them beat because they have a Q with a low kicker or are bluffing. I ask what would you people do in a situation like that because it seems like that is where alot of players lose or win a lot of their money.
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Old 03-12-06, 03:38 PM
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The first thing that I would do is raise more than 3x the BB or just throw my hand away (Im assuming that you are at a 9 handed table). I would probaly pop it up to something like 5x the BB so you can get a good idea of where your at. Also I personally would only play this hand under the gun if the game is really tight. I think that KQ could be eaisly dominated with 8 players left to act.

Then after the flop it all depends what type of read you have on the guy(like is he agressive or tight) and have you seen him smooth call big pairs like KK or AA before the flop before.
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Old 03-12-06, 05:44 PM
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Usually I would say u have best hand you gettin callers on yoor bet I just slow down my betting to see what hits the board try to figure out if they were chasing or they flopped a set if they just call you tell the river and then u make a bet and they all-in you well then thats when its gut check time!!!!
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Old 03-17-06, 05:50 PM
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firstly, tourney and cash games. situations differ.

if it's tourney. it's crucial to know what stage of the tourney.

eg, if it's beginning of the tourney, i'd lay it down right away. no need to get involved. the proportion of the pot to the current stacks is too low for that pot to be crucial.

middle stages. depends on stack and the aggression of the opponent.
stacks of you and your opponent also matter.
if both of you are big stacks, no need to get involved.

one thing u fail to take into account is that poker is a game of position.
whether you are playing cash games or tourneys, position is very important.

your hand also affects the significance of playing in your position.
hand like KQs from UTG (assuming fulll table) is a bad idea.

if u are going to raise it up, raise it up to 4x. no need to raise it up to 5x since it's not that great a hand. but 3x is a bad idea from UTG as u are giving better odds for your opponent to call. Unless you are good at reading the players and are good at playing post flop, raise bigger.

why is it bad to play hands from out of position? basically, ur raise will most likely be called by someone who will end up acting after you on the flop.
that leaves you to act before them on the flop. this means it will be more harder for you to get information on your opponents hand.
if u face a raise on your flop bet, it's hard to know where u stand. if he just flat calls you, what will be your line on the turn?

basically when playing out of position (ie acting first on flop/T/R), u want to try and keep the pot small. especially with a marginal hand like top pair second kicker.
i like your 2/3 pot bet on the flop, seeing as it is quite a dry board

in this situation, i'd fold to a bigger raise if the stacks were deeper. if either of you is short stacked i'd have to call (assuming it's tourney).

i'm assuming that your opponent could be holding a set seeing as the boards quite dry and its his only likely holding
but there's not enough information to deduce to a single hand.
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Hard to tell.
I usually don't raise pre flop with KQ.
But if i was and then he would go all-in i probably would of call if i have enough chips or i'm too short stacked.
It depends of how i'm standing in the game.
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It's really hard to decide in this situation. If you are playing a bunch of loose players, I'd call, but if everyone is playing pretty tight maybe lay it down. You have to rely on your reads of the other players in the tournament/game.
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It can create tough situations if you dont raise enought preflop, but lately online top pair is not enough for me to put too much of my stack in with all the fish out there. It seems like to win a big pot on certains sites your minimum hand has to be two pair. Ideally people would play the same way as they do live however they dont! So play consistent and be weary of fish.
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It can create tough situations if you dont raise enought preflop, but lately online top pair is not enough for me to put too much of my stack in with all the fish out there. It seems like to win a big pot on certains sites your minimum hand has to be two pair. Ideally people would play the same way as they do live however they dont! So play consistent and be weary of fish.
I've had that problem as of late too. I was in 2 SnGs yesterday where I bet top pair and lost becaseu someone else called with a draw and caught their BS river. Bad luck for me today, maybe I can rebound in the tourny today.
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In a situation like this you have to look back at previous hands and see how the person that put you all in has been playing. In a freeroll or something like that I would most likely call but in a big game for a lot of money I would make my read and then do whatever I believed was right.
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i agree, you have to try to predict his cards based off his bet and his history. unless you have just been transferred and this is one of the first hands you played with him, you might be able to tell if he is tight/aggressive/whatever or if he is bluffing you.
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