[ScottMc]

8 handed table in the 3rd level. You have already doubled your starting stack and you are at T23000 ish in chips. The blinds are 300-600 giving you an M of 25.555555555 (you get the point) The table is very wild and most pots are 6 handed preflop with lots of action.

You are in the BB with Kh 3h, 300-600 are the levels. UTG limps and we get calls from the next 3 players, the 4th makes it 1800 to go and we get a call from player on the right of the SB. Button folds and it is to you in the BB. There is now 6600 in the pot and UTG still left to act giving your implied odds at 7800 in the pot, you are getting 6.5 to 1 to call and so you do. UTG tosses a monkey wrench into the mix however. She raises to T3000… after limping…ACES anyone? All folds back around to you in the BB facing another 3000 to call for a 9600 pot that will be 12600 if ypu do, still laying you 4.2 to 1 on your money. You think real long about it and finally made the call regardless of all the signs indicating that the UTG has AA. YOU HAVE K HEARTS 3 HEARTS
The Flop comes 3s8h10h and you check to the raiser. She makes it 3000 to play pot is now 15600 leaving you with 18200 left if you call and the UTG raiser has about 23000 more left behind here (your table had had 5 knockouts before the 3rd level and she did 3 of them) You think real hard about your action here.

WHAT DO YOU DO?

I will give the answer when I have 5 responses. Make them good!

[TriptreysNJ]

without knowing what T23000, or M of 25.555 even means....I say at this point, you have to be willing to either push the rest, or fold it right now. You've paired you measily 3 and are probably still behind in the hand. But pairing the 3 gives you more outs to win with, and don't forget you have a King high flush draw. There is always that 10% chance the villian is bluffing too. I'd push it in this situation, and hope he folds, or hope I get lucky.

[ScottMc]

T=tournament chips. the "T" is placed in front to let you know it is not real money but tournament money.

If you dont know "M" though you got a bigger problem. The "M" Theory was created by Paul Magriel, you might no him as the butt ugly guy that says Quack Quack a lot on T.V.

He is a math genius and along with Dan Harrington and several others created the "M" factor and the Tournament play that revolves around it. This information can be found in Dan Harrington's Book Volume 1 and 2. These 2 books will completely change your tournament play over night. If you are at all serious about winning at Poker you must have these books.

You answer is very close by the way. Now tell me why you would chose to make this move and what the benefits are.

[Lytspeed]

Well, knowing that Trip's answer is very close, I know my answer won't be. If I had only a small pair after the flop and suspected UTG to have rockets, I would swallow hard and lay down the cards. Even with the possibility of a K high flush, I would wait for a better hand to push that many chips in.

But that's probably why I'm not a pro. I'll be interested to read Scott's answer.

[ScottMc]

Answer to the question is on the front page of my Blog. it comes complete with pictures.

[TriptreysNJ]

Originally Posted by ScottMc

T=tournament chips. the "T" is placed in front to let you know it is not real money but tournament money.

Duh, I should've figured that.

Originally Posted by ScottMc

He is a math genius and along with Dan Harrington and several others created the "M" factor and the Tournament play that revolves around it. This information can be found in Dan Harrington's Book Volume 1 and 2. These 2 books will completely change your tournament play over night. If you are at all serious about winning at Poker you must have these books.

You answer is very close by the way. Now tell me why you would chose to make this move and what the benefits are.

I have Volume 1 and have read nearly all of it. Did I miss the "M" value chapter? I don't remember reading it.

As far as my answer...

PF, when UTG makes the limp-raise, I put them on JJ-AA, AKs, AK. But the odds are so tremondously good, I must call to see this flop. Pot is 12600, and a weak bet from UTG says to me, "I missed". So then I put him on the AK or a mid pair, say, 77. Those are my guesses. ANd I push it as a semi-bluff (even though I may be ahead in the hand), but even so, I can still draw to a much bigger hand.

[ScottMc]

I wouldnt look at the small bet as a bluff or even a contiuation bet. A bet of that size serves only one purpose and that is to get value and induce a reraise.

[TriptreysNJ]

so what actually happened?

[Lytspeed]

Originally Posted by ScottMc

Answer to the question is on the front page of my Blog. it comes complete with pictures.

Wow. That was quite a lot of mental gymnastics for him to perform in a short time. I'm impressed, but I if I accept the M theory (which I don't really know that much about), I can't argue with the logic. Thanks for the post!

[Arjonius]

Feel free to correct me if my memory is faulty, but as I recall, M is the number of chips you have divided by the number you have to put in each orbit, including one BB, one SB and all antes. It's an alternative to simply comparing your chip stack to the size of the big blind.