[newpokerplayer]

k...the fastest shortcut I ever found to calculating your outs likelehood of improving your hand...I'm gonna keep it very simple so that even a first time player can do an immediate calculation in your head...

to calculate outs is fairly obvious..if you have a pair then of course you have two outs...a straight draw has either four or eight....a flush draw would have 9 outs...a flush and open ended straigh draw has has 9+8-2 or 15...two pair and you have 4 outs...two pair with flush draw 4+9-2 or 11....

the beauty of this system is that its a rough estimate usually within 2% of the correct decimal calculation, so evein if you miss an out its still very close...

OK ARE YOU READY HERE IT IS IN A NUTSHELL!!

after the flop= number of outsX4
after the turn =mumber of outsX2

so for example you flop 2 pair and have 4 outs

you have 4x4 or 16 percent to boat up within the last two cards

after the turn you have 4x2 or 8% chance to boat on the turn

[godlikev]

now i think you are wrong ...terible wrong...i deffinetly you don;t have 8% chances of boat in just one card that is imposible..you have 52 cards in a deck..just 4 cards help you...(because the other 4 are in your hand) so that means 4/52-2 and that is not 8% as i am not a priest...that is 0.08%so i think that is a big diffrence