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Old 07-22-06, 08:01 AM
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First limper is pretty loose, but this has been a pretty limp happy table and I'm not sure how he will handle a raise. 2nd limper minraised Jacks preflop and got all his money in on a Ten high flop to double up but otherwise has been reasonably tight. Would a smaller raise be more appropriate here?

In the heat of the moment I raised because I didn't want to play a flop OOP with one loose limper and one tightish limper. It seems to me I might have been better off playing poker here, what do you think?
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Old 07-22-06, 08:53 AM
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I'm not sure I completely understand the context of your post, but I can say this. With KK in the BB, you have a great opportunity to let people play into your hand. If anyone raises pre-flop, you could just call the raise and people would not suspect a monster hand. From that point, you could check-raise or check-call the other players' bets. If no one raises pre-flop, you could either check the bet or raise to 2x BB; my personal strategy would be to play it quiet and just call others until the turn or river. If the cards have helped my hand, I would then raise or re-raise, as the other player would be committed and would either follow or lay down a big hand.

I hope this post makes sense ... I'm trying to post through a migraine.
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Old 07-23-06, 06:06 AM
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I would raise 3BB to flush out the weaker hands. Nothing worse than getting a coordinated flop and getting into trouble. If I see an A then make a 1/2 pot bet to see where you are at. You are usually hoping that someone hits a top pair on the flop that will still lose to your KK.
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Old 07-23-06, 04:04 PM
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What's the rest of the situational context? Is this in a tournament? If so, where do you stand, what are the relative chip stacks, etc.? Or is it a ring game? If so, what are the stack sizes, and what is your goal at the moment? Do you want to play a big pot, or are you comfortably winning lots of small ones, in which case you may prefer to maintain your image and the table flow, which are working well for you, rather than risk disrupting a good thing.

That said, my most probable / frequent action is to raise, likely to 4x or 5x the BB since there are a couple of limpers to contend with.
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Old 07-23-06, 04:31 PM
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If there is only 1 limper and another tight limper i would throw in a small raise to extract some money off of them, then on the flop throw out a bet of like half the pot or slightly half if no "A" hits that flop. You want to make sure your being agressive enough to represent a hand but not agressive enough that you could lose a lot of chips. Because if you allow it to go to the river with no "A" hitting the first 3 cards, your just asking for a beating in my mind. I would always take guaranteed chips of lets say 500, then to risk 1500 due to letting people see free cards they dont need to see. Checking or slowplaying can get you in hurt, should only slowplay the nuts.

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Old 07-30-06, 03:18 PM
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that's a great position for a hand like that. you can check raise after the flop, and you can see where everyone is at before the flop. any raises pre-flop and you're there to call. if everyone limps I would usually make a minimum raise deoppending on the situation.
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Old 10-29-06, 02:02 PM
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i would have reraised preflop ad made sure i got the hand HU most likely wit jacks he would prolly push back over the topp all i and ud have ad him where u wanted him and if he folds u pick up a decent pot w/o conflict nothin wrong with that
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