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Old 08-15-06, 06:56 AM
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Default Folding my AA post flop

This is an embarassing story because I know I can play better than this.

I was the short stack in early position and 4 players were left in the tourney.

I picked up AA and raised about 1/3 to 1/4 of my stack.
(Which was only about 2,3 times big blind)

Everybody folded except for the loose aggressive guy to the right of me.

The flop came out 9 8 2 and I bet out then he re-raised me all-in.

Before this tourney, I had read so much about a big pair getting busted by a set, and that "good players don't put all their chips with just a pair."

I just folded my AA and the guy turned over 77.

I know that overbetting the pot post-flop is a sign of bluff and if he had hit a set, he probably would have slow-played.

And 1/3 of my stack was in the pot.

Did I make a horrible play? And what are the criterias for calling an overbet post-flop?
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Old 08-15-06, 09:34 AM
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With four players left, you were probably in the money already. I would have pushed pre-flop. With a 982 flop, I would have pushed all-in again. It would be unlikely that he have 99, 88, or 22. He may have had almost anything, ie. suited, connectors, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, Ax or Kx, because the pre-flop raise was not enough. In a short-handed situation, I would push with any premium hand and hope to double-up.

Almost 75% of the time you will win heads-up when holding AA. True sometimes you will lose, but you gotta go with the odds and take your beatings along the way.
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Old 08-15-06, 12:20 PM
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thanks, iceberg!
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Old 08-15-06, 03:43 PM
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don't know what tourney is it.. if it is big MTT with 4 players left and big difference between 4th and 3rd place and i'm not the shorthest stack - i would probably think about folding.. but on that flop.. the only thing can scare me in late stage on tourney is that 9 which can give somebody a set..

but i would probably put him on overpair - like 10 10 or 8 8, 77.. or 9A ..
i would call it for sure.. there is a chance you can lose, but i think you had much better chances to win that pot

how you did later in tourney ?
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Old 08-15-06, 04:16 PM
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I went on tilt after folding this ... so I didn't do that well
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Old 08-17-06, 12:07 AM
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I never folded AA yet.Prefer to play tight in ealry phase of the tourney.I raise and re-raise only with something pockets(jj-aa).But never go all in with A-k or A-x.
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Old 08-21-06, 08:49 PM
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It's hard to tell since you don't state how many chips you had and what the blinds were, but it appears you were donw to somewhere in the vicinity of 10 to 12 BB before you made your initial raise. And you said you were the short stack. So, I fail to see much reason for folding.

The board is relatively benign. For your opponent to have an open-ended straight draw, he would have had to call your raise with JT, T7 or 76. Not impossible, but not very likely either, especially the latter two holdings. Since you also said nothing about the suits on the flop, I'm guessing it was rainbow, but even if it was single-suited, so what? You're the short stack and don't have much more than 10 BB left. What better opportunity are you going to wait for?
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Old 08-21-06, 09:30 PM
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if u were short stack what did u had to loose.?i mean..if u had a short hand what better hand did u expect to come?and what better flop?i would of folded that hand only if the flop was something like KKQ or something..i would of moved with the flop 892 no doubt.i think u played it good w8-ing for the flop but i think u had to move after.
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Old 08-22-06, 07:03 AM
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I concur with Godlikev, "if u were short stack what did u had to loose.?i mean..if u had a short hand what better hand did u expect to come?"

If you were short-stacked, you need to be thinking of a hand to double up on, and with a monster hand like that, you gotta think about go all-in pre-flop. And then with a board like 9 8 2,,, wow. Go for it hard there. If he has trips, so be it.

AA is a great hand, and being low on chips, play it hard and double up!
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Old 08-22-06, 08:16 PM
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I dunno if I could fold Post Flop....maybe Post Turn or Post River.....but not Post Flop....

But I guess thats how Rockets get busted...
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