[nxtyear]

k, now i got it.

so if someone hits trips (and still wants to stay in the hand!)
losts to someone with 2 pair, right?

and two pair, eg 3s and 6s
lose to two pair 4s and 5s....
right?

Razz is confusing !

[W13rd0W]

yes u are right 3s and 6s lose to 4s and 5s BUT it will be needed 3 pairs in the 7 cards for 2 pairs to be taken in consideration

[Phoenix29]

Seems like a very confusing game and a frustrating one for that matter.

I think i'll stick to Hold Em and Omaha and save myself the frustration.

[Texas72]

Originally Posted by nxtyear

i'm confusd, so which hand wins:


A2357
A3467

which hand wins? do u count from the lower highcard? or the lower lowcards?

Best advice I ever got on how to read hands in Razz (and all low games) came from Felicia Lee:

"The easiest way to read a hand in any low game is by making it into a whole number.

So say you are playing Razz, since it is easiest to illustrate in Razz than any other poker game.

Say you start like this: A3/5

Great start, three to a bike, raise it on up, raise any other raiser, unless you think you'll get no action (not likely in today's poker world).

On fourth you brick up: A3/53

But heck, no one knows you paired, and you still have your premium start. Unless you feel you are so badly beat that you have no odds to stay in, just bet your board. Razz is a board game, after all!

On fifth you fare a bit better: A3/534

Sixth you pair again, dang! A3/534A

But no one knows you have two pair with a bike draw, so bet it. Only morons are going to be in there with you, anyway, showing a board like that!

The river...thank God: A3/534A/6

So now to your question, how do you read your hand? This is the time to put it into a whole number. Forget about the two pair, it's the lowest FIVE cards that count.

A3456, excellent, but how do you know what beats what? Turn it around, into a whole number:

65,431, that is your low. Compare it to other lows that might be out, and remember, the lowest low wins.

87,531 is a greater number than 65,431.

75,532 is still a lower number than: 76,321, right?

Don't let that ace fool you. People try to read it from the bottom up, that is incorrect. In all low games (Stud 8, Razz, Omaha , it is read from the top down, not the bottom up. Turn the number into a whole number, and you will never be confused!"

Hope that helps y'all!

[Slayre]

best advice I ever got was from Dr. Paulys brother...

1) Draw to the wheel
2) pairs cancel out

Went on to take 7th in the H.O.R.S.E. tourny winning most of my chips with RAZZ, based solely on that advice...

( that 7th might have been a different tourney, but, I did finish ITM ).



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[W4ll4by]

wierd game never realy heard about it. I would get confused if i should play both razz and poker.

[BadAndy]

WHOA.... that is a game i wont even think about getting involved with, i cant think so complex.. gotta keep it simple with NL Holdem baby!

[patriki]

very difficult with razz, but i seem i`m a master of razz when play other kinds, but i never win!, so, split the pot with me!

[baraaka]

Wow that sounds intresting I had never heard of this game before but I think I'll give it a try.
THANKS

[royalflush525]

Razz sounds like it is a good game I've never played it, I think I'll give it a try you know that saying you'll never know until u try it well something that is. lol l;ove, live, laugh and play poker.