[Rubyredbingo]

i play about 2-3 times a week at a local casino in a 4-8 game. the game is always really loose in that people will call and see anything down. i try to wait and play premium hands but i lose money much more than i win. when i lose i can usually count about 40-60 in bets or calls that i could have saved but i do not feel that those are the difference in my winning or losing. does anyone have any advice how to handle a loose table of callers who will not respect it when you build a table rep as a conservative player with good cards?

[Catcherblck]

I hate BINGO games, that is what we call em at our local casino $5/$10 limit tables, I';d rather play at 30/60 or 10/20 get's rid of the bingo players as it were., Try movin' up in stakes, if that's not in your budget and u don't want to think that much stick to the 4/8 but i'd say play aggresive. with the bingo player's they will eventually lose there money to u if they play all the crap hands

[acesfulkings]

for one thing..u cant bluff these ppl out..they simply will not fold...play the prium hands and PUT them out.....

[acesfulkings]

use the check, raise, reraise on them u you do get something.,..its hilarious

[zoobomb]

If your entire table is playing loose and you are not prepared to join them then you will find yourself being hustled out very easily. They will have a much better idea of your hand then you do of their's. I tend to play a lot looser at a B&M game because people who (i figure) play online regularly will often come in and play conservatively expecting the gameplay to be the same. If you dont fancy yourself any good at reading other people (which I assume, as you play conservatively that you dont) you're prolly better off sticking with party-poker. Moving up in limits is an idea but more than likely youll just get stomped quicker. Whens the last time you heard a WPT braclet holder describe his play style as tight and conservative.?

The whole idea of poker is to be able to be dynamic iwth your playstyle, if your feeling like the table is too loose for your liking, and your not prepare to spend a bit of money improving your game, jump around the tables until youve found your kin. You do realise that conservative players rely more on luck than their agressive foes, you might as well be playing blackjack.

However if you find yourself at one of these tables and cant move for whatever reason heres a couple of pointers..

1. Drop your bloody standards! if theres 6 people at your table you dont have to wait for one of the top 10 starting hands to go in, if someones scared off the rest of the competition with a medium raise pre-flop.. consider calling it with your mid range cards.. you can quite comfortably put him on med to high cards and milk him for a whole lotta money when you pair up and hes sitting on ace high with just "the conservative guy" to hussle out looser players will love 1v1ing you if you playing tight so if you do catch them out youll drain their fundage considerably.

2. If you can identify the player/s who seem to be really agressive raise them up when you get good cards on their big-blinds. Theyll be more likely to call or even try to re-raise high to scare you off.

3. Youvs got a conservative reputation ..use it. The loose/agressive players advantage is that he will win more off his good hands. And the tight player gets the luxury of 2-3 bluffs that will be mighty dangerous for anyone to call.

If you just wait to play your good hands only then you are bound to lose.. You are playing odds and percentages and there is a rake on the table.
Good luck to you.. you will need it.

[bigjenny]

to be honest I think that if you are losing that much money you should probenly play something else. thats just an idea.

[pookyman]

Do not loosen your standards, tighten them up. If you are getting beat you are playing to many hands. Also in a limit game pot odds are paramount. There will be times when drawing at an inside straight is the correct play to make. Stick to the best hands, the law of averages will work in your favor.

[JasonKirk]

If you find yourself in a crazy limit game, where there are usually five players or more to a hand, there are three words of advice I can give you:

1.) Read Ed Miller's Small Stakes Hold'em. Learn it. It will guide you well.
2.) Research Morton's Theorem. It will explain to you why you are losing when you wait on the big hands in these crazy games.
3.) Unless you've got about $3000 in your bankroll, weathering the storms in a 4-8 game like that can be just about impossible. It can be frustrating to sit in these sorts of games when you're a tight player, but it's even worse when you're underfunded. Find a low-level online game and grind out some bankroll before you go attacking the live 4-8.

[dreamer_77]

Rubyredbingo,

You say that u only play premium hands but still somehow end up losing more money than u win and that all the players on ur table are extremely loose, showing down every hand they have. There are many ways to combat this. Firstly, if they are showing down all the hands they have u should know what types of hands every player on the table plays after a few rounds. This is extremely advantageous to u. You will then know exactly what to play and exactly when to play it. Dont wait for the nuts, just play positional poker and wait until you think have a decent hand. Notice how i said decent and not premium. If you ask me, you are the luckiest person on the table. Play those K-3o and A-rag very often. As alot of the time they will be the best hand if you catch your high pair.

[oohsexypenguin]

When I played poker in Stockton, there was this really loose poker room. People would seriously call down 6-2 offsuit just to see if they could bluff people out of the pot. This was limit poker. I found that yes, playing choice hands was a good idea. But then you become predictable. I guess sometimes you need to play the slightly mediocre hands, see the flop every once in awhile. If you don't see what you like you can always fold right at the flop, but if you happen to have a pair or better, chances are you're going to win it. Especially if it's a high pair. In fact more often than not the hand that wins most of the pots in loose games is just a pair. I hope this helps.