[flyer187]

During freerolls, the people who go all-in on the first 3/4 blind levels are a godsend

I tend to hold back my chips until the blinds get to 50/25 to make sure I get value out of the pot, even if I'm raising people off it completely

I would, however, say that the use of all-ins (online) is essential during speed poker, particular on 3 minute or less blind levels (empire poker for instance)

You have to build a chip count fast there or its all over before it starts

My 2 cents

Flyer187

[beriac]

Precisely, it has its place; take advantage of it when others use it prematurely or overly frequently, and use it yourself only when to your advantage.

I will admit that I tend to flip flop with respect to how to deal with the crazy all-in and all-in calling that goes on in the early rounds of low-stakes tourneys... if you hold tight you watch people build stacks around you to bully you with, if you loosen up there are so many players to suck you out on the turn/river.

I think you need to adjust your style, just not sure how much sometimes.

[dylan236]

I'm personally against all in pre-flop unless i absolutely must put all my chips at stake. People do over use it and it seems that you ever see anyone with hands like AK they always goo all in. AK isnt a hand u should go all in with if you're doing fairly well in chips. Other people get scared so when ever a good hand appears they feel that they need to push allo there chips in or other wise they will get screwed on flop or so on.

[Yearbookpoker]

The all in is really not an option unless I am low stacked or have something real nice preflop and they have raised me already. If someone else goes all in though before me I would struggle to call though because I don't like calling all ins.

[hayden1009]

I love the all inners ...especially those that come to the tourny to mess with the room...they have asperations to win just piss people off....I just sit back until I get the right hand then call and double up...they take all the guess work out of play ...just br patient and you can make some serious chips..

[sensei24]

I only use all-in pre-flop if i have a high pair over JJ and if i'm short stacked.
I preffer playng AA with just a raise preflop or waiting for someone else to go all-in.
All-iners will always be because are many beginners players who think if they have a small pocket pair they can win the hand.That usually happens in small and freeroll tournaments where this players have more access.

[msmith]

I agree that someone going all in on the preflop can ruin you game. I have had that happen to me with a good starting hand. Here is what happened:

My hand was KK. I raised and the player after me went all in, this was the first hand of the game. So everyone folds and it gets back to me. I am thinking well maybe he is bluffing and I have a good hand, so I call. Our cards are turned over, I have pocket K's the other player has 23 off suit. I think to myself, how stupid of him. Then comes the flop 2J3. What are the odds in that? So now I won't play all in on the firat hand , it doesn't pay when playing with people like that.

[TopTrotter]

Being new on here, I'll put in my 2 cents on this one as well .. lol

there is a very good article on the Perils of TV Poker which you might want to read http://www.pokersourceonline.com/art...asp?article=49

I like using the all-in move in rebuys like a maniac - works well for me... catch a couple and you have one of the top stacks after the rebuy period ends.... plus everyone thinks you are an idiot, which you can use against them in the regular session.

Even the pro's get all upset when someone is pushing all in at them. Did you see how frustrated Howard Lederer was at WSOP? He was complaining how every time he gets involved in a pot, someone wants to make him play for all his chips. Hoyt Corkins gets under the skin of alot of top pros... just ask Phil Hellmuth .... because he likes to push big stacks of chips at them.

You aren't alone if it bothers you -- but it's how alot of people play now so we have to get used to it!!

[hayden1009]

until they change the game to almost allin then I say let em do it ...it is an essential tool of a good player and the only tool of a bad player. I make plenty off the bad players...just be patient and its like having you own ATM sitting at the table.

[angleskid]

Originally Posted by Phoenix29

Since so many new players are intrigued by poker nowadays and have started playing by the millions, this phrase, glamorized on TV, has changed the game forever.

How many times have you played on a site n have seen several people going All In pre-flop, whether its a tourney or a cash game, w/some of the weirdest and worst hands and up winning.

The phrase is so contagious and so easy to do, that in a way, it can ruin your game.

What do you guys think?

to great extent u r right
it happened to me lot of times
poker is many times cruel