[royalflush525]

I want to know how many peopke like the rebuy tournaments or do you pre fer no rebuy? Well I was in this tournament at noble and this guy did about 30 rebuys and he kept going allin, I was doing pretty good for a while, and than I could'nt get in the hands they were ok but not all in hands so just staying in for a few bets than he would go allin I guess maybe I was not thinking right or something, but some one would call him win and he would rebuy, by the time I got enough courage to call him, my hands were not as good, well does that make any sence to you, MY QUESTION IS WHICH DO YOU PERFER REBUY TOURNAMENTS OR NO REBUY? Thanks for your answers. LOVE, LIVE, LAUGH AND PLAY POKER BUT KNOW WHEN TO QUIT

[mikeychips22]

I hate re buys I will never play them. Re buy poker is alll about going all in maybe getting lucky and winning alot of chips or losing and than repeating that process. It is not poker it is an all in fiasco. t is not good if you are working on small bankroll because you do not want to rebuy and lose money on something you might not even win. I think it is a cheap way to play poker. No skill and no fun for other poker players.

[Texas72]

I'm not a big fan of rebuy tournaments either, but if you play smart you can usually do well at them. Sure, there will be people going all-in very frequently, and that's when you want to be in the hand with them, holding Aces or Kings, etc. The strategy they're using is they want to double up as much as possible, and if they go broke along the way, they can always rebuy. You don't want to rebuy, so you just tighten up and wait for the best moment to strike - and then you've doubled up without it cosing you a penny.

Takes a fair bit of luck, to be sure, but it's a solid strategy.

The ones I hate the most are the Turbo Rebuys (5 min levels) or even worse, Ultra-Turbo Rebuys (2 min levels). Those are just crapshoots!

[ScottMc]

I was against re-buys for a long time but with the caliber of play in some of them it is just a better chance to get in a bigger prize pool. Take the MTT on Noble for instance. Most of the GP's with the rebuys do not meet the minimum amount of players to cover the guaranteed. so if you are in a $750 GP for a $5 buy in you will need 150 players to match the GP. Say you get 70 players for $350 prize pool before the rebuy period is over giving you a $400 over lay of prize money. If everyone makes it to the break and adds on there is still an over lay and the top 10 are guaranteed a prize pool for a 150 person tournament with only having to fight through 70ish players. Most of these lose 20 or so players that do not opt for the rebuy and the remaining 50 players will do at least an add on and 30 or so of them will do a rebuy so that is another 80 buy ins for the tournament giving you 160 rebuys and putting you over the guaranteed prize but still only paying the top 10 ADDING MORE MONEY TO THE PRIZE POOL. Rebuys are good if you know what you are doing and have the patience to wait for a prime hand. Since it is more likely that you will be going up against a player that is just trying to get a big stack and has the "it's a re-buy" mentality. Also with the extra chips on the tables after the break it is easier to get paid off. With 50 players left and 180 buy-ins worth of chips some of the bigger stacks tend to be a lot looser down the stretch allowing you as a tight aggressive player to double through more often and come from behind

[beriac]

Interestingly, that argument only goes so far. Because you get the bump in your equity when you buy into one of these guaranteed tournaments where the numbers aren't enough to justify the cash prize outlay, but before people's rebuys and add-ons add to the pot, they have to get all the way up to the original threshold first, which basically soaks up that prize equity advantage you had going in. It's still advantageous to be in them, chip-wise, but in my experience if you don't plan on doing re-buys yourself, it's a much bigger gamble because you have to take out people at your table 2, 3, 4, or more times before they're gone, but if you ever lose it's over. It's a tough proposition, kind of playing in a tourney with many more players than advertised (and prizes to match of course). As you say, you can wait for great cards and catch the chaotic all-ins or all-in calls, but even then I've found I'll get 2-3 calls for my all-in on AA and just get sucked out anyway!

I prefer freezeouts, but I see the merits of both.

[Yearbookpoker]

I deffinately prefer the no rebuy tourneys. I am one who believes that you get a chips for a tournament and when they are gone so are you. I don't think you should have numerouse chances to win and like royalflush said some people take the rebuy way to far by using it like 20 or more times in big tournaments. This is usally why I will stay away from these tourneys and stick to the regular ones.

[AGreen]

I just don't get the point of a rebuy tourny. Why not just play at a ring table and buyin big instead of putting up the buyin a good number of times. I only have ever played freezeouts, except for this morning when I got bored and played Titan's rebuy-freeroll at 2am.

[beriac]

I hear ya... Just this week, I played at a re-buy tournament, because it was a guaranteed tourney and less than 1/3 of the people needed to justify the prize money had entered. There was one guy at my table who went all-in every hand, and I swear he re-bought 10 times while at my table. He was only saved by the fact that the rebuy period ended after an hour!!

[Texas72]

The advantage of a rebuy tourney, like any tourney, is that you're putting up a small amount in order to possibly win big. In a ring game, to win big you have to put up a fair amount of cash too. Some rebuys can get massive prize pools - I have a friend who regularly plays the $3 Stars rebuy tourney, and that prize pool is usually well into the thousands. Since it's only $3, people rebuy often!

[beriac]

I think it was in Phil Gordon's book that I read that for re-buys, you just calculate your total equity in the tourney if you re-buy -- if it's bigger than the re-buy, buy back in. At the very least, your entry goes into the prize pool, so you should be even. For those tournaments with guaranteed prize money which is often in excess of the original buy-ins, it can be positive too. And of course, if you believe you're a good player, you get positive equity from that. So sure, there are lots of reasons to play re-buys and dive back in.

For me, the situation is more than it's disheartening to take players out of the game again and again (sometimes in all-in situations) and find they never leave! What you think is a 200-person tourney effectively becomes a 400-person tourney before it's over!