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Old 08-15-06, 06:56 AM
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Default Folding my AA post flop

This is an embarassing story because I know I can play better than this.

I was the short stack in early position and 4 players were left in the tourney.

I picked up AA and raised about 1/3 to 1/4 of my stack.
(Which was only about 2,3 times big blind)

Everybody folded except for the loose aggressive guy to the right of me.

The flop came out 9 8 2 and I bet out then he re-raised me all-in.

Before this tourney, I had read so much about a big pair getting busted by a set, and that "good players don't put all their chips with just a pair."

I just folded my AA and the guy turned over 77.

I know that overbetting the pot post-flop is a sign of bluff and if he had hit a set, he probably would have slow-played.

And 1/3 of my stack was in the pot.

Did I make a horrible play? And what are the criterias for calling an overbet post-flop?
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Old 08-15-06, 09:34 AM
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With four players left, you were probably in the money already. I would have pushed pre-flop. With a 982 flop, I would have pushed all-in again. It would be unlikely that he have 99, 88, or 22. He may have had almost anything, ie. suited, connectors, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, Ax or Kx, because the pre-flop raise was not enough. In a short-handed situation, I would push with any premium hand and hope to double-up.

Almost 75% of the time you will win heads-up when holding AA. True sometimes you will lose, but you gotta go with the odds and take your beatings along the way.
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Old 08-15-06, 12:20 PM
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thanks, iceberg!
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Old 08-15-06, 03:43 PM
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don't know what tourney is it.. if it is big MTT with 4 players left and big difference between 4th and 3rd place and i'm not the shorthest stack - i would probably think about folding.. but on that flop.. the only thing can scare me in late stage on tourney is that 9 which can give somebody a set..

but i would probably put him on overpair - like 10 10 or 8 8, 77.. or 9A ..
i would call it for sure.. there is a chance you can lose, but i think you had much better chances to win that pot

how you did later in tourney ?
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Old 08-15-06, 04:16 PM
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I went on tilt after folding this ... so I didn't do that well
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Old 08-17-06, 12:07 AM
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I never folded AA yet.Prefer to play tight in ealry phase of the tourney.I raise and re-raise only with something pockets(jj-aa).But never go all in with A-k or A-x.
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Old 08-22-06, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by burea1124 View Post
And what are the criterias for calling an overbet post-flop?

could you please state how this would be an OVERBET in this situation?

if you had bet preflop, get called etc and you bet out on the flop, you are probably now down to 7~8bb in a pot which has 10 bb

how is his raise going to be an "overbet" ?

if you meant he went all in for a significant amount of chips, it doesn't mean anything because you are the short stack, so the effective chipstacks of each of you are equal to the chips that you have, not what he has.
considering your stack size post flop after you bet, there's no raise that could be considered an overbet
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